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Scan of first character study page Tuesday, November 16, 2004 • read strip Viewing 48 comments:

oh so awesome! phillipe in hammerpants!

I can't tell if Lyle was going to be French or an old-timey burglar.

I believe the point of reference is "1890's strong man".
[IMGS OFF]

The top Lyle is quite the jaunty little fellow (not to mention the optional Kangol). Onstad understood within minutes that it could not be that way. Insight like that is why we're all on this site now.

Top Lyle there is the very image of that feller from Mythbusters...

Yes!

Fun Fact: Early character sketches for Jamie Hyneman were based on Lyle.

Is that a real fact, or are you just having fun?

I get more of a sailor/stevedore vibe from the early version of Lyle.

Also, does anyone else see a little bit of Tony Millionaire influence in these early sketches? I've looked at this page a dozen times, but I've only seen a possible connection since Millionaire did the guest strip. Maybe I'm imagining it.

can anyone help me fully decipher the text to the right? this is what i piece together:

"Theodore
Mr. Bear
E-Bear
Lyle
Phillipe
---
The premise is
that the animals
are left in
their owner's
house all day
every day. But
they are not
cleaned up for
[?]
consumption.
Cute and natural
storylines."

anyone have alternate or more accurate translations? also, who is 'E-Bear' and whatever happened to him?

"G-rated" consumption, it looks like.

yet instead we have catcock.

'not cleaned up for G-rated consumption' -thus cat and or bear cock.

"Cute out. Natural storylines"

I think it's actually "cute out - natural storylines" i.e. depression, alcoholism and five-year-old otters running for office.

I think it was "Actual," not "natural." They're anything but natural.

"Cute art"?

Yes. It's definitely "Cute art - natural storylines."

Maybe it's "mature"? That seems to be a good way of quickly describing the concept behind Achewood : "Cute art - mature storylines".

Also, sometimes I wonder about the development of Lyle's appearance, mainly because he looks nothing whatever like the actual stuffed animal he's supposedly based on. Sometimes I wonder if Onstad originally tried drawing Lyle's wide-open tiger mouth - and wound up with a big black thing in the middle of his face which looked much more like a huge moustache, an effect which actually worked really well.

To see what I mean, look at the second-from-top drawing of Lyle, and try and see his moustache as a mouth; then compare that with stuffed-animal Lyle. I think it's possible.

Thanks for that. I wish the alt-text had said what that was.

around the names Chris drew boobies, I think.

agreed, but it came out as a visual trick (kids would probably see a backwards and forwards 5

E-bear was an early attempt to add more racial diversity to the cast.
Maybe.

Probably some kind of predecessor to Ray, note the medallion.

Oh E-Bear, we hardly knew ye.

i think lyle is wearing stripes because he is a tiger.

it's worth noting that apparently lyle is such an ineffective tiger, in this early incarnation, that he requires manufactured help in order to be what he is.

Top of the page, why it's that disturbing looking sock monkey from a very early strip with Cornelius , the never again seen (?) Monkey Who Wonders What's up with AIDS.

That monkey is present in some of the comics he drew for the humor magazine at stanford also

I am so angry at the internet for making me google this myself - HOW COULD YOU BASTARDS HAVE NEVER LINKED ME TO THIS BEFORE!?

https://chappie.stanford.edu/staff/Chris%20Onstad/

In the Donkeytown comic Monkey Boy is driving the same car that called Phillippe a huge fag.

The skeleton in "American Nightmare" looks like the beginnings of Cartilage Head.

Onstad is the monkey.

"theodore"

Philippe looks almost like a penguin in some of these, with his tail shown.

Definitely going to have to get Mr. Bear that tweed jacket for Christmas!

The caricature of Phillipe on the right has bulky pants that seemingly forms a heart. Makes sense for his character.

Theodore's packed it on of late.

I understand why strips like these are rated lowly, but shit like this fascinates me. Love the creative process.

Wow, in those pants, Philippe is straight up Chaplinin'. Only much smaller.

https://chappie.stanford.edu/archives/1996-1997/power/interview_with_a_vagrant/ oh good lord, funniest thing ever.

YES.

he just really wanted someone to have a beret.

Lyle should totally have gotten a beret.

What I find interesting is that Phillipe was always an otter, and not just a kind of thumb with pants that became an otter later on.

We can also see that Phillipe used to be called Philippe.

Did you really just correct my spelling? Are you some kind of crappy pedantic little bullshit man?

No man... You're spelling it how it's spelt. But Onstad used to spell it different.



Oh. Apparently I was doing what you suggested. But I didn't mean to be doing that. Sorry.

Oddly, I actually suspected it might be the seemingly less likely explanation you gave than that you were just being a corrector.